Internet Explorer 8: Really?..why?

Ok, I just downloaded the latest and greatest Redmond browser. I have to say there are some good things and then of course, there are bad things. It's by far worlds better than IE 6, but it's still....Internet Explorer.

Here's a thought...Why doesn't M$ just stop making IE altogether? Seriously? They've made web development a headache since day one of IE. Tried to gain market share and control how to program for the web. That failed miserably.

Suggestion? Why not have M$ partner with FF to help distribute with their OS? MS won't partner with the other browsers (Safari? ha! Ballmer and Jobs partnering?, Chrome? ha! Didn't Ballmer want to eradicate google from the planet?) Just makes sense to me if M$ and FF partner. We'd be so much better off with web development and "standards" compliance.

Ok..time for me to get off the hookah heheheh

Oh...Bring Down IE6!

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JC's Gravatar You think IE is insecure now, imagine if they didn't push out any more updates...

IE8 is pretty decent so far. Seems to actually be *more* standards compliant than firefox (or more precisely, less forgiving)
# Posted By JC | 3/23/09 4:11 PM
Glyn Jackson's Gravatar I was in the IE 8 beta program a year ago not even Microsoft rendered correctly. they have now fixed the issue however I know a lot of sites that dont render, Yahoo has only just sorted there issues, so imagine the problems when it comes out for all the developers that have not tested in IE8 lots of work to do people. my sites are AA standards W3C's strict and CSS valid and i still had to do some CSS hacks!
# Posted By Glyn Jackson | 3/23/09 4:38 PM
Daniel Laughland's Gravatar If your site renders wrong, you're doing it wrong. IE8 passes the Acid2 test just fine. That's the best metric I've ever seen for standards-compliance. That's why this release is such a big milestone. ALL major browsers are now standards-compliant for layout.
# Posted By Daniel Laughland | 3/23/09 6:02 PM
Admin's Gravatar @daniel: if that's the case then jquery dialog css must not be compliant. Some of my jquey dialog boxes are behaving awkwardly in IE8 but perform well in ff,safari, and chrome.
# Posted By Admin | 3/23/09 7:01 PM
glyn jackson's Gravatar That's not the case dan the fact is all the major players over the last year have been fixing bugs. Like I said we build for govs using xhtml strict our sites are passed after many tests and over the year we have had to get ready for 8 and many bugs fixes later there are still a few issues with speach readers, floats and other standard things. Its better than IE7 but they still have a long way to go at least this time around MS sat down and talked to the other players. Ps I am spending today fixing a ext 1.0 app in ie8 which does not render correctly
# Posted By glyn jackson | 3/24/09 2:45 AM
Rob Wilkerson's Gravatar While I tend to agree with the general stand you're taking, I do think you're wrong when you say that "They've made web development a headache since day one of IE."

IE actually _made_ the web what it is today. Up to and even including IE5 (maybe even IE6 when it was current), IE was the de facto browsing platform and it paved the way for browsing the web to be the rich experience it is today.

Unfortunately, after IE6, they rested on their laurels for _way_ too long and everyone else passed them by. And then continued to lap them about 37 times.

I haven't spent any time with IE8 yet, but I don't think it matters, frankly. Too many large shops aren't upgrading so, as a practical matter, we could be stuck with supporting IE6 indefinitely.

For my part, I'd be okay with IE continuing, but I'd really like them to move to one of the now standard engines - preferably WebKit.
# Posted By Rob Wilkerson | 3/24/09 7:34 AM
Glyn Jackson's Gravatar Netscape the web what it is today long before IE. RIP Netscape.
# Posted By Glyn Jackson | 3/24/09 8:26 AM

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